Do you want a RP background of the guild?

Okay, well, we are getting close. Any precision to gives?
I'll write a text concerning this. A simple text, just to allow everyone to imagine their personal position into the story.
Once this is done we can start to write the novel in 24 chapters. "Whitestar, a travel into madness"

Acharial wrote:The time jump be something very mystical though, since time travels in star Wars universe never happens.

Well I don't entirely agree

TBH 'Time travel' to the future is actually very hard to prevent, because of a physics phenomenon called Time Dilution. The existence of Time Dilution was proven in our own universe by the Apollo and Space Shuttle missions where atomic clocks were a fraction of a second off after a space flight. With very high speeds this would be weeks, years or even centuries.

Because of this phenomenon SciFi writers have to come up with a 'trick' to prevent time travel at high speeds, for example the Relativistic Shield for hyperspace travel. Or of course they can just ignore it

Traveling BACK in time is much harder however, and that's why I thought of some mystical Force experiment. Obviously it failed, maybe because our wacko self-proclaimed Sith scientist only had completed high school and 3 dance lessons

There are some examples of time travel in http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Time_travel
One example is a jump during the great hyperspace war and this Sith ship landed within the Unknown Regions in the far future. I thought Acharial was actually referring to this incident when he proposed us time jumping from there. Lol very big - maybe even mystical?? - coincidence

But the again, we don't have to travel in time... it will give you Time sickness any way, or so I've been told

It was the incident I was refering to indeed

What I meant also was that doing Time travels without them being too kliché is rather hard, and they are very rare in the Star wars univese compared to say Star Trek. If you look at that list you see that very few time travels actually happened in the entire Star Wars universe and It's quite huge.

A failed experiement from Sith alchemists would be something cool that caused it. ^^

So bacially after this incident, where do we end up? Is it when we start our characters and do the "tutorial zone"? How do we meet up again?

Acharial wrote:So bacially after this incident, where do we end up? Is it when we start our characters and do the "tutorial zone"? How do we meet up again?

we end up in the start zones i would say to fit into Swtor effortlessly
We could play it up to be the force that brings us together again on dromund kaas or that we planned that all along

I would say ... let out SW geegs make up stories
Would be cool to read and to choose one or all

Amuatama wrote:

Acharial wrote:So bacially after this incident, where do we end up? Is it when we start our characters and do the "tutorial zone"? How do we meet up again?

we end up in the start zones i would say to fit into Swtor effortlessly
We could play it up to be the force that brings us together again on dromund kaas or that we planned that all along

I'd say, we could even say that the starting zone is one year after our "come back" from our adventure. This to allow every character to have a better transition. For example a crew member that was a technician originaly, had been used to use weapon while the anarchic madness on the Whitestar, and has become Bounty Hunter once back.

Acharial wrote:
What I meant also was that doing Time travels without them being too kliché is rather hard, and they are very rare in the Star wars univese compared to say Star Trek. If you look at that list you see that very few time travels actually happened in the entire Star Wars universe and It's quite huge.

Cliché? Naaa I would rather call it Daring, my dear Acharial

And very frivolous of course, never forget frivolous

We really need more frivolous, the Star Wars universe can be so serious sometimes... dark... black... grey... aarrghhh so depressing
If I cannot have my Pink Jedi or fluffy, bouncy Elf , than at least allow me an Orange Sith... or Vermilion Sith even
Yeah Vermilion would do it for me... "The Order of the Million Vermilion" ...or would that be too fluffy ?

Although I like the general premise, I feel there are some inconsistencies in the story line.

For example, the Star Forge was destroyed 300 years ago, which makes it less credible for us to be the crew of a Star Forge ship (unless we are very very old )
Also, while the Star Forge itself would corrupt its users by feeding on their dark side, it is not logical that a ship created by it would do the same. It it would, the Empire would soon be out of sane warriors

What about the following outline:

Our team was an elite infiltration team sent out in front of Revan to discover and capture the latest and greatest Empire Warship 'Darkstar'.
Using stealth and ingenuity to infiltrate the Star Forge, we finally discover the Darkstar. Obviously it is heavily guarded and a fierce battle ensues.

The excessive use of the Force in this battle turns the 'attention' of the Star Forge to our team, and as we are on the wrong side of the Force, the Star Forge starts corrupting our minds.

When we finally have killed all our enemies and barred the docking area, we are already starting to feel the effects of the dark corruption by the Star Forge. This corruption has different effects on Force users and non-Force users (we may want to use this later in our personal stories).

During the battle the Darkstar took damage, and we therefore cannot leave the Star Forge yet.
While our technicians furiously try to fix the ship, some team members think it would be a good time to rename the ship Whitestar, to indicate it's new inclination.
NOTE: Rumour has it that the Jedi knight Chak'Ra insisted on renaming the ship Pinkstar, but her proposal was overturned by the group's leader Elloa. This rumour has however never been confirmed.

Time was pressing, as the team knew the Star Forge was about to be destroyed. Only seconds before destruction the Whitestar took off and left the Star Forge docking area.
Being so close to this explosion of very dark power, our minds get totally corrupted and all our memories erased.
Our pilot was only just able to jump to hyperspace before he collapses.

Unfortunately the ship's Relativistic Shielding was also damaged during our fierce battle, and instead of jumping to Coruscant, we end up 300 years in the future in the Unknown Regions.
Being disoriented and totally confused, we're not sure where to go to and in the end we are captured by the Empire.

To take revenge on the Republic for turning Revan, the Empire decides to make use of our confusion and loss of memory, and turn the Republic most elite team into agents for the Empire.
And the rest will be our history...

It might be too late for me...'cause I really don't know if you are serious or teasing, and if you are serious I've not followed everything. Will re-read this tomorow with a fresh mind (I'm too much into Fus-Ro-Dah atm)
And I'll let the specialist in StarWars Lore discuss about what's fitting the Lore the best, cause I've myself no idea about that!

*cheer*

PS : okay second reading I understand better now.
Will let the others share their opinion. This scenario seems a bit more complex than the other but maybe more probable? I don't know...
I know I've been proposing the jump in time myself, but I think i'd prefer avoid that. Seem a "easy" trick to make work a story not supposed to work, if you understand what I mean.

Elloa wrote: I really don't know if you are serious or teasing

Okay, I guess I deserved that
But I can be serious too, and this time I was... really

Elloa wrote:This scenario seems a bit more complex than the other but maybe more probable?

I'm not sure if it is more complex or more probable, but maybe aside from the time jump, this outline seems a bit more logical and consistent.
And being former Republicans would also explain why some of us start as slaves, as the Empire would want to 'break' our will.

Our republic team was an elite infiltration team sent out in front of Revan...

which implies knowledge of the starforge before hand If the republic knew the position of the starforge at that time they would not have needed Revan to find it for them it would render Kotor1 adabsurdum

... to discover and capture the latest and greatest Empire Warship 'Darkstar

The Empire was also believed to be dead/in exile at that time noone was thinking of the Sith it also was believed the Jedi Protector of the Republic would know when they would be back

For example, the Star Forge was destroyed 300 years ago, which makes it less credible for us to be the crew of a Star Forge ship

The starforge is a wreckage now but it does still exist
Rakatatech is a technological advancement even 300 years after revans lost battle(it is also top tier stuff in Swtor i believe)

It is not uncommon to try and recover advanced technology from a battlefield the expedition was tasked to find any usable Tech for the empire and they happen to come across a derelict warship

the idea of a not fully functional Relativistic shield is great
while descending into madness a BH programmed a course to his hideout the ships rakatan version of Relativistic shield were not fully functional as a security measure it dropped out in uncharted space were it bounced of the atmosphere of a planet

(I imagine, the Whitestar semi land semi crash on a far far away planet, desertic )

Amuatama wrote:
which implies knowledge of the starforge before hand If the republic knew the position of the starforge at that time they would not have needed Revan to find it for them it would render Kotor1 adabsurdum

Ok I see where the confusion came from. What I meant was we were entering the Star Forge just (hours) before Revan did and confronted Shan and Malak. The position of the Star Forge was then already known and the Republic fleet was already on their way to destroy it. Our mission was to capture the Darkstar before it was destroyed together with the Star Forge.

I'm not sure I understand what you want to do with the Relativistic Shield mishap. As such an incident would mean a jump in time, is your proposal also that we are from some (other) time from the past?

Chak'Ra wrote:
Ok I see where the confusion came from. What I meant was we were entering the Star Forge just (hours) before Revan did and confronted Shan and Malak. The position of the Star Forge was then already known and the Republic fleet was already on their way to destroy it. Our mission was to capture the Darkstar before it was destroyed together with the Star Forge.

I realy like this Idea but i see some problems with being a elite Republic force limits the possibility for people who would like to have an empire background.(and not be an infiltrator or spy)

While the Expedition from the Empire leave the personal Backgrounds open
The expedition started with some agents from the empire Intelligence and some Sith and ofc they are from the empire
the hired BH possible with crew and/or some additional people (for example technicians) can have republic backgrounds if wanted

P.S.
Personally i want my toon to not have any connection to the republic whatsoever(Sith pureblood)

Why just not keep it as simple as after the tutorial we were assigned to work together for some very special case, or we just formed an organization called Whitestar.

I dunno but now when I think about it, it seems a bit odd to have Star Forge as a background story for us, I kinda feel It's a bit kliché, don't you think?

Amuatama wrote:

I realy like this Idea but i see some problems with being a elite Republic force limits the possibility for people who would like to have an empire background.(and not be an infiltrator or spy)

Yep you have a good point there.

I was trying to lay a bridge to our alt guild Whitestar on the Republic side and to explain why we have this rather 'light side' kinda name for our guild.
Guess it's also my subconscious trying desperately to hold on to something of the 'good' side

Acharial wrote:I dunno but now when I think about it, it seems a bit odd to have Star Forge as a background story for us, I kinda feel It's a bit kliché, don't you think?

Lol... our RP background seems a tougher nut to crack than the Euro crisis
Maybe we should all go to Bruxelles and organise a 3-day plenary meeting on this

TBH I'm fine with the Star Forge story line or our original Great Hyperspace War storyline. As it is only a RP background I don't worry too much about it being too cliché or even a bit unusual.

But I do agree we should keep the story simple and give each member enough space to make up his/her/its personal RP history.

Hmmm I guess that just ruled out going to Bruxelles... damn

Chak'Ra wrote:TBH I'm fine with the Star Forge story line or our original Great Hyperspace War storyline. As it is only a RP background I don't worry too much about it being too cliché or even a bit unusual.

But I do agree we should keep the story simple and give each member enough space to make up his/her/its personal RP history.

Hmmm I guess that just ruled out going to Bruxelles... damn

Yeah pretty much what I wanted to say. Something more simple and something easier to evolve later on.

Haha! going to Bruxelles would've rocked though! Guild meeting ftw

Acharial wrote:Why just not keep it as simple as after the tutorial we were assigned to work together for some very special case, or we just formed an organization called Whitestar.

I dunno but now when I think about it, it seems a bit odd to have Star Forge as a background story for us, I kinda feel It's a bit kliché, don't you think?

I don't really know if it's cliché or not. We are in the first wave of SWTOR roleplayers, I supposed that we could allow ourselves to be a bit cliché, as we will be among the first. Now it's a bit hard to check the background of other guilds to see what they have done, considering forums are closed.
I liked the idea of Amu, because, it very fastly became a Epic story, that could deserve its own movie, or novel. Another point that I really liked in this story, was the fact that we had shared a very heavy adventure before and that it had build relationship between everyone. This could possibly create some troubles for some roleplayers though.

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Now, we could imagine something like that - if you prefer : each of us in Whitestar, are mysteriously contacted by a anonyme "mail". The message say something in the lines "You had been selected for your special abilitie sblablabla. You are requested to accomplish a mission of the highest importance. In case of success the reward would be beyond your hopes. We let you sometimes to consider the proposition. We will contact you later. Post Scriptum : By the way, <insert some intimidating comment about a secret of each character> Signature is a white star"

What's the mission? What's the agents? Who? Why? How? At start our characer will be either lost, intimidated, not interested, interested, will want to know more, will investigate, will ignore it. Whatever.... But each of us had been contacted a first time by the "Whitestar". And then....a second time.
This will give us a reason to meet each other, to interact with each other, and to desire to collaborate.

We can decide what will be this mission , those agents, what's the point of all of this a bit later. It gives us time and flexibility. or maybe, some of us can build this, while most of you ignore everything, so we are organising for you a kind of surprise! This idea is not interefering with the Bioware main quest. This idea let you have the background you desire. This idea give us a "excuse", a motivation to interact with each others.

I am fine either way (as long as i dont have to be a republic guy )
Anyway this the summary of what we have so far for the Starforgeship "Whitestar"

1. What was the exact mission of the expeditionary Force from the Empire.

Trying to get the empire ahead with superior technology the Empire intelligence was tasked to find usable Tech from the Rakatan infinite Empire a couple of Sith pulled some strings and took over command of the mission hoping to advance their private agendas

2. What happened when we discovered the Whitestar?

The Expedition in search for Rakatatech that would satisfy their superiors and/or grant the sith in charge the advancement they longed for
(still don't know if it would be too pompous if the "Whitestar" is found at the wreckage of the Starforge )
They came across a derelict Warship first sweeps across the ships bow and interior showed it might be in an functioning state as it only missed Power(which is also the reason its still in one piece)
As rudimentary power was established aboard the bridge the ship-computer logged it as the "Whitestar"

Tension between the Siths rose as it became more evident that whoever brought the Whitestar back to the Empire would be able to advance their agenda tenfold.

3. Why do we have disappeared. What happened during that time? Have the roles changed?

Inevitable a Battle for supremacy ensued between the Sith the Ship now reawakend hungering for Energy of the Darkside eagerly absorbed the power and anger of the fighting Sith consuming them in the process (leaving only husks behind.)

The ship now radiating Darkside power enveloped the whole crew in raw Darkside energy descending them into madness
losing their mind splinter groups formed around people which had their latent force potential awakened they fought and betrayed each other. It was total anarchy.
(if required for the Warrior origin some Sith could have survived | The leading imperial agents didn't survive)

As the multiplied energy lowered its intensity over time the remaining people had prolonged moments of lucidity,as they realized they are turning mad they tried to escape the influence of the Darkside energy to fully regain control over their actions again.

4. What happened since our return. What happened to the starforge ship?

After some times of disappearance, the crew managed to return to the Empire. After an preliminary Investigation of the whereabouts of the Expeditionary force the Whitestar is "taken away" to be analysed further and to study the effect of the Force phenomenon that happened on it.
The Survivors were debriefed and analysed for a time the Bounty Hunters negotiated their term of Freedom others were made slaves and some even recommended for training.

One thing they all had in common was a longing to be aboard the Whitestar once more.
A longing strong enough they could instantly identify each other as Crew of the Whitestar no matter where their life had taken them.
(its an easy method to bind the unlikely allies toghether from BH to SI)

the personal background remains free with this
it also fits very nicely to the origin story of the classes in Swtor
The Agent was recommended for training

The Bountyhunter got a Reputation which could be the Reason he was sought out by his Origin Story

the Inqusitor it became clear he is force sensitive after a period as slave he had the choice to either die or go to Korriban for training

This storyline works for me.

We may want to add a reason why the Whitestar would make us mad. At that time the Star Forge was used to make ships for the Empire, and that wouldn't work if all Empire crews would go mad after a while. So something special should have happened to the Whitestar. Or we could leave it a mystery

Chak'Ra wrote:This storyline works for me.

We may want to add a reason why the Whitestar would make us mad. At that time the Star Forge was used to make ships for the Empire, and that wouldn't work if all Empire crews would go mad after a while. So something special should have happened to the Whitestar. Or we could leave it a mystery

are you serious
something like this in the spoiler tag you mean ?

Spoiler:

No I just felt we were missing a part in the story.

Actually I like your suggestion to locate the Whitestar in the wreckage of the Star Forge. After 300 years close to the remains of the Star Forge, the Whitestar has been infected with some of the 'sentient' characteristics of the Star Forge, but also its corrupting dark power. That would also explain why the Empire would really want to get its hands on this very special vessel.